I’m back volunteering at Fountains Abbey, and every time I’m there, I’ll spend time in the ruined Abbey itself. I’ll gaze up at the voids which were once windows. Any stone tracery has long disappeared, revealing views of the sky and trees beyond. And I wonder what the monks saw, during their long hours of worship – eight sessions a day, the first at 2.00 a.m., when the night was charcoal-black and only smoky tallow candles lit the space? The ascetic Cistercians had no statuary in their churches, little stained glass, so the monks probably glimpsed a barely-to-be-discerned landscape beyond, through water-greenish, slightly uneven glass.
In her challenge this week, Jude has invited us to compare the same scene in colour, and in black and white. I thought it would be interesting to do this in a building in which colour plays little part. Surely there would be little difference? Well, apparently there is. I find the black and white version a little too austere for my tastes. What do you think?
And here’s a view of the Abbey with Huby’s Tower, which was completed a mere 13 years before Henry VIII brought the Fountains Abbey community to an end in 1539 during the Dissolution of the Monasteries. I’ve tried to show it more as it might have looked then, set in a wilder landscape than the manicured parkland we see today. And when it came to the monochrome version – well, there’s black and white, and black and white. Again, there are choices here ….
I love these ruined abbeys scattered around. The photos are good and, while I prefer the softer B&W for the distant photo, I prefer the colour one of the windows as it better highlights the rich hues of the stone.
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Yes, the stone is astonishingly warm toned isn’t it? And I quite liked both the B/W and the coloured view.
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Agreed! It must have looked quite a sight in its prime!
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It’s lovely stone: richly tones and textured, and you can go fossil-hunting too.
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Well worth a visit then 😉
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Do! Its a great place for an entire day.
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Brilliant pics, Margaret 👏 Brings back memories of when I used to visit the Abbey as a kid; I lived not too far away in Ricmond, North Yorksire 😃
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Ah, Richmond. Love it. I’m guessing you might have been an army family?
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Yep, my dad was Royal Signals, based at Catterick before the School of Signals moved bak to Blandford.
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I prefer the pictures in colour.
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That seems to be how the vote is going!
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It is amazing to walk in the places where people of old walked and laboured. I like your photo with the coloured abbey in the soft focused background.
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Thanks. I was fond of that one too. And yes, to remember their daily lives and rituals while you’re there is quite an experience.
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Lovely pictures, I think colour is best. The tones in the stones are beautiful and interesting but don’t pop in b&w.
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I think this illustrates perfectly that you really do need good strong contrasts in a B&W version.
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Yes. You can play about of course, but only up to a point (and if you’re cleverer than me 😉 )
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Wonderful windows, or rather remembrances of windows. When it comes to B&W that is a different art altogether, how the colors are translated, emphasized, how the tones are shifted. These photos lend themselves to marvelous interpretation in B&W. You should not attempt to compare a color version with a quick B&W. That is like comparing apples and sea shells. B&W is a different way of seeing the world. It hakes time, effort and dedication. Thanks for sharing.
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I can see that now. I’ll give it more thought, and see what I can come up with. Thanks for your thoughtful comment.
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Am always envious when I read about your time spent at Fountains. It is a fascinating site. I was wondering whether you set you camera to take black and white or whether you changed colour shots to black and white.
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I changed the shots. One day, I might set forth with the aim of using b/w only. I wonder what effect that will have on my choice of shot?
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Reading some of the comments above, it looks like black and white photography is a very considered affair. I find it hard to see past colour. Like you I change the shots and see what I get.
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Yes. It’s rare I set out to do a black and white shot. Maybe I should give it passing thought more often.
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They would have been covered with white plaster inside but I much prefer the colours of the millstone grit blocks.
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It’s amazing how much of that white plaster work is still visible. I agree. It might have been taking stark too far. Though make for a lighter building.
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One of the wonderful things about Fountains Abbey is the peaceful, green setting. Your black and white photo with the soft focus background manages to convey something of the setting without the colour but I think the colour does improve it. It’s a lovely photo, grounding the abbey in wild countryside rather than manicured lawns.
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They’re allowing it to grow much wilder since lockdown. I much prefer it. I think there is a place for black and white here, but not necessarily in the photos I took.
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I LOVE Fountains!
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Join the club.
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Fountains Abbey is an amazing place and incredible that so much of it still remains. Thank you for reminding me to revisit sometime Margaret.
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Do! It’s not going anywhere and is lovely at any time of year..
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I know your challenge was for B & W but I think that sepia would suit this image rather well. I am always in awe at the feat of engineering and construction of these ancient buildings…and yes, I too wonder what life would have been like in such austere surroundings.
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Sepia? A good idea. I’ll try that. Thanks. Well, it was certainly austere in many ways – no heating except in the depths of winter, middle of the night prayers and so on. But on the other hand, there was always food on the table, nobody could force you to go to war, so there were compensations. And you’re right. I always look at these buildings and wonder how they were possible with the technology available.
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I always enjoy these compare and contrast posts. With the first set, the colour version is a clear winner for me. Love the warmth of the stone with the green. With the second set I prefer the b & w but which one? Initially I felt the stronger contrast was better but now I’m not so sure. It occurs to me that it depends on the narrative I’m consciously or otherwise attaching to a shot. The trio make me think nostalgically – not of the timelessness of the abbey itself but of a visit to the ruins… maybe in the 50s…. A story begins to weave itself around that image and leads me to favour the softer version. You, of course, will have had entirely different intentions for taking that particular shot…
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That’s such an interesting point. Yes, I was seeking a viewpoint in which the abbey was part of a wilder landscape, and in that sense, the more dynamic black and white image worked better for me. But a different story might want a different emphasis. One commenter, Al,said he’s like to see it in sepia, and I can see why. I might explore this further.
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The ruins are beautiful! I think, in the first image, it’s just to busy for the black and white. But I like the second black and white image, the one on the right best.
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Thanks for your thoughts. Yes, nobody’s gone for the b/w windows, but opinions divide on the view of the abbey.
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The abbey looks fascinating – somehow such an immense building partially ruined invites an even greater appreciation of its size and structure and the processes that might have been involved in its construction.
I think I prefer the colour version for both photos.
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This poll is getting interesting! I honestly had thought that b/w would be fine in an essentially monochromatic building, but it doesn’t really work, dos it?
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I think the trees behind the arches are a distraction in the black and white version but form a nice contrast in the colour pic. Also as mentioned the colours in the stone are lovely.
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You’re right about the trees. I felt that too.
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I prefer the top one in colour and the bottom in black and white. The beautiful tall windows seem to be shown off better against the green rather than mid grey.
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It seems to be a unanimous vote for the top one, and more mixed for the second. Interesting.
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Yep. I’m with everyone in preferring the coloured version of the top photo but I also prefer the coloured version of the bottom one though the left-hand darker b/w was a very close second. Fountains Abbey is a very special place; so atmospheric! I can imagine it must look better now it is less manicured.
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I like it like that, but it’s not universally appreciated. Can’t please everyone!
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The monochrome version of the window photo seems to have flattened out the levels, so the stone and the leaves have the same tone. The colour version is much more inviting.
I usually go for high contrast monochrome over softer tones, but I much prefer the second bw version of the tower. Its haziness lends itself to the cow parsley in the foreground and the softer focus of the tower. It brightens what is quite a leaden sky in the colour version, too.
Lovely pictures. They bring back memories of a school trip to Fountains Abbey and Skipton Castle in my first year of secondary school. I loved the tranquility of the abbey.
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And with reduced visitor numbers it’s pretty tranquil these days. I wonder if you dressed up as monks for the day, as schoolchildren did until the dreaded Lockdown? Thanks for your thoughtful observations.
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If only! Dressing up wasn’t on offer in 1983. We looked at the ruins, listened to someone tell us about the Reformation, did some sketching and had a picnic by the river.
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And very nice too!
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Yes the B1W is austere.. We have an old Abbaye on our doorstep.. The Stones were used in 1823 to build another church nearby.. a shame..
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It happens all the time. Yes, many buildings round here can claim part of Fountains Abbey or other religious buildings as part of their fabric. In some ways, I like this continuity, this recycling.
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